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Post by brokenconfused on Jan 9, 2011 19:11:00 GMT -5
Actually Tal you made a mistake, Without you was not bigger than Use me in terms of chart positions and radio airplay, u might wanna research stuff b4 making a post about it
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Post by brokenconfused on Jan 9, 2011 19:13:57 GMT -5
RNR I feel the same way on Lips, I love the song but sick of people acting like its the only song Hinder have to offer..with that said, i hope they do release The Life.
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Post by rocknroll on Jan 9, 2011 19:38:26 GMT -5
Definately! I mean I really think ''The Life'' is going to be huge! If I had it my way I would release every one of the songs on this record as singles lol. I think every song on this record is just killer! I think it's pretty cool that Cody and wrote with the Warren Brothers and Jeffrey Steele too. They really did a great job! Is it just me or does anyone wanna hear the other songs Cody and mentioned like.. Breakdown, Memory, Backstage, etc. Ha ha. I'm sure they'll be out soon enough!
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Post by RexRox on Jan 9, 2011 19:56:00 GMT -5
Ds said most of what I would have and I gotta go back to work. I'll have to post on my next break
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Post by Dirty Little Rocker on Jan 9, 2011 20:30:31 GMT -5
I agree with DS. and RNR. I love Lips, but i got so tired of it being the only Hinder song. Better Than Me did alright for a while, and then it was just Lips again. Now Cali doesn't even play Lips, which is irritating as f**k. But i love almost every song they've put out, altho i was dissappointed with TITTL but i'm extremely happy with AAN and EB is an amazing record. I love Hinder
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Post by rocknroll on Jan 9, 2011 21:06:29 GMT -5
Hinder is great and people is going to have to accept that there may be another song down the road that has a meaning like Lips that they do, but if not then oh well. I will always support Hinder no matter what. I don't care how bad of reviews they get about an album or if they change their sound.. They are a killer band and they take care of their fans and they don't forget to thank all of us in interviews and their records. I will forever support this band!
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Post by Dirty Little Rocker on Jan 9, 2011 21:17:21 GMT -5
I will too
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Post by RexRox on Jan 9, 2011 23:14:47 GMT -5
Let's see if I can remember what I wanted to write and if my frozen fingers will work. I didn't mean it to sound like lips was released just because the fans wanted it but they had impact on the choice. That was back when cody was still active on the board and they owned the website and not universal. They put up a poll and lips won. And like ds said, the record company didn't want lips on the album at all. Called it a b-side at best. But the guys pushed for it and the company had to eat their words. One thing I love about this band is how they care for the fans and listen to what we think and say. Espically cody
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Post by musicsteve on Jan 9, 2011 23:18:34 GMT -5
I agree w Tal & I think the next one should be "What Ya Gonna Do" or on the harder side "2 sides of Me" Anyway I like that everybody has Different song's they would select to be the next single! I think its a good sign for how many different GOOD song are on the Album but it will make it harder for Hinder to select the next one & we all have some very strong feeling about it & But what ever they select I hope it becomes a Top Ten Hit! I like that Hinder can play soft, med. & harder rock
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Post by Tal on Jan 10, 2011 13:03:37 GMT -5
i know most of the forum here prefer heavy rock over alternative... ^^THAT is a generalization that I don't think applies across the board to the members here. I think everyone here has a broad range of musical taste that includes more than one type of musical style. To quote some familiar lyrics..."like what ya like, it don't matter to me" Nothing and nothing. It's all personal preference. We're lucky that Hinder does both well, thereby giving their fans the best of both worlds in one mix. I can't say definitively that "Lips" was chosen because of this forum/fan vote, but I can give you some insight. It is a widely known fact and well documented story that Hinder's A&R guy (the guy at the label that chooses singles) didn't want "Lips" released as a single. In fact, he didn't even want the song on the album. The band made it very well known to the label that "Lips" was going to be included on "EB" (I will have to watch a video I have for an exact quote if you require proof.) As for choosing songs and what gets released...the band does have some say as well. The song "Running In The Rain" was due to be included on "Extreme Behavior," it was cut at the last moment (hence there being track listings on the net that show the song as being on the disc, even though it was pulled). After much discussion, fan requests, comments and direct conversations, the band had "Running In The Rain" added to the bonus tracks for "Limit." ETA 2: Cody has said, in interviews, that the fans asking for that track had a direct impact on them releasing it. He makes no bones about that issue. I would be surprised if some of the 70+ songs written for AAN don't come out at some point. Especially if they add one to their live set, it makes a big impact and we ask for it. Also there are many heavy rock / metal bands out there ... hinder isnt that kind of band... if you like heavy rock hinder is not the best choice In America, Hinder tends to fall into what we call a "Hard Rock" category. I have no idea about the rest of the world, but here, if you want "heavy" rock you listen to Metallica, Megadeth, Iron Maiden, etc. That's "Heavy Metal" here and no Hinder doesn't fall into that category. But I fail to see what your point is in making that statement. I'm fairly certain that Hinder's fans aren't as concerned about "what label" their music is given, so long as they enjoy playing it and we enjoy listening to it. As for your other post about them being called "gay" for their first 2 albums, I know some people around the country that are jealous of their success and I'm certain they use stronger words than that, but you have to consider the sources. ETA: You know I wonder, if you prefer "alternative music" why is it, that you are here? No disrespect meant, but really....you only seem to care for one song and one type of Hinder's songs. You're allowed to do that, but you've got to remember when you make some of the statements you've made, you are going to be put on the spot by the fans that are here. lol gonna put me on the spot by some fans here? should i feel threatened ? I dont like the way your express yourself so do us all a favor and calm down. It seems like the folks in this forum getting pissed off every time this song is mentioned.. I said it was my favorite and that the decision to choose rock songs as a first single is bad for tham... your forgetting that maybe if thay warent reasling lips of an angel you may not ever known about hinder... thay wouldnt be what thay are now for sure... you know thay need money to exist. also you may want to watch this www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMdp2ZyjZk8it may be old but you can see for yourself 1:03 . this is just one example for "hard rockers" (not necessarily from saving abel i speak generlly). opinion about lips of an angel... thayre still begin called gay by "hard rock listener" at Lips of an angel video on youtube because of s handmoving . so why do i need to feel this hostility even at theire fans forum? off the record lips of an angel single is selling the same as all amircan nightmare single at the moment
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Post by ♡ dsangel ♓ on Jan 10, 2011 14:03:01 GMT -5
lol gonna put me on the spot by some fans here? should i feel threatened ? I dont like the way your express yourself so do us all a favor and calm down. It seems like the folks in this forum getting pissed off every time this song is mentioned.. I said it was my favorite and that the decision to choose rock songs as a first single is bad for tham... your forgetting that maybe if thay warent reasling lips of an angel you may not ever known about hinder... thay wouldnt be what thay are now for sure... you know thay need money to exist. also you may want to watch this www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMdp2ZyjZk8it may be old but you can see for yourself 1:03 . this is just one example for "hard rockers" (not necessarily from saving abel i speak generlly). opinion about lips of an angel... thayre still begin called gay by "hard rock listener" at Lips of an angel video on youtube because of s handmoving . so why do i need to feel this hostility even at theire fans forum? off the record lips of an angel single is selling the same as all amircan nightmare single at the moment First, do yourself a favor and take an English class so you understand what is being said to you. I could care less if you like how I express myself or not. YOU are the one who brought up "threats" ~ no one, not one person in this thread "threatened" you. That makes no sense whatsoever, absolutely none, there's nothing to "threaten" you with. Obviously you read something in my post, that you didn't like, so you felt the need to "attack" me. Seeing that I live in a free country and have the freedom to express myself, which is exactly what I did, no threats, no attitude, no anger....THAT all came from your interpretation of my words, I'm going to do it again. Read carefully. As for your opinion, it's just that, an opinion. Just because you have a favorite Hinder song, doesn't mean that it's everyone's favorite Hinder song. The comment about "Lips" being the only song that made them what they are today, is narrow minded and ridiculous. If it WAS the only song that mattered, Hinder wouldn't even be around now, they'd have been a 1 hit wonder. (Like a few other bands that have surfaced and then gone quiet, in the same time frame.) They obviously aren't, especially considering EB went triple Platinum and Limit went Gold. I haven't seen any certification for AAN...yet. The example you used is old news, and to the real fans, it holds no merit. We know what is like on stage, we know what he does and we know what other people say. Your continued comments about the band from a negative perspective tells me a few things: 1 ~ You're someone pretending to be someone you aren't....a member who was here before, is a hater and just wants to start shit with the members. (Your comment to me was a big clue.) OR 2 ~ You only like Hinder for 1 song and don't care too much for the rest. We get it, we've heard it, people like you have been here before. Now, if you think that I'm being rude to you, just ask anyone who's been around for a while ~ that was tame, as was my last post. You made your points, I responded to your points, just like I have done once again. If you have an issue with that, I can't help it. Those 5 guys and their music, their entire body of music, means something to me and I won't stand by and let someone run off at the mouth about them, their music, or any other issue they want to drag up if it's crap.
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Post by Tal on Jan 10, 2011 14:34:05 GMT -5
lol gonna put me on the spot by some fans here? should i feel threatened ? I dont like the way your express yourself so do us all a favor and calm down. It seems like the folks in this forum getting pissed off every time this song is mentioned.. I said it was my favorite and that the decision to choose rock songs as a first single is bad for tham... your forgetting that maybe if thay warent reasling lips of an angel you may not ever known about hinder... thay wouldnt be what thay are now for sure... you know thay need money to exist. also you may want to watch this www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMdp2ZyjZk8it may be old but you can see for yourself 1:03 . this is just one example for "hard rockers" (not necessarily from saving abel i speak generlly). opinion about lips of an angel... thayre still begin called gay by "hard rock listener" at Lips of an angel video on youtube because of s handmoving . so why do i need to feel this hostility even at theire fans forum? off the record lips of an angel single is selling the same as all amircan nightmare single at the moment First, do yourself a favor and take an English class so you understand what is being said to you. I could care less if you like how I express myself or not. YOU are the one who brought up "threats" ~ no one, not one person in this thread "threatened" you. That makes no sense whatsoever, absolutely none, there's nothing to "threaten" you with. Obviously you read something in my post, that you didn't like, so you felt the need to "attack" me. Seeing that I live in a free country and have the freedom to express myself, which is exactly what I did, no threats, no attitude, no anger....THAT all came from your interpretation of my words, I'm going to do it again. Read carefully. As for your opinion, it's just that, an opinion. Just because you have a favorite Hinder song, doesn't mean that it's everyone's favorite Hinder song. The comment about "Lips" being the only song that made them what they are today, is narrow minded and ridiculous. If it WAS the only song that mattered, Hinder wouldn't even be around now, they'd have been a 1 hit wonder. (Like a few other bands that have surfaced and then gone quiet, in the same time frame.) They obviously aren't, especially considering EB went triple Platinum and Limit went Gold. I haven't seen any certification for AAN...yet. The example you used is old news, and to the real fans, it holds no merit. We know what is like on stage, we know what he does and we know what other people say. Your continued comments about the band from a negative perspective tells me a few things: 1 ~ You're someone pretending to be someone you aren't....a member who was here before, is a hater and just wants to start shit with the members. (Your comment to me was a big clue.) OR 2 ~ You only like Hinder for 1 song and don't care too much for the rest. We get it, we've heard it, people like you have been here before. Now, if you think that I'm being rude to you, just ask anyone who's been around for a while ~ that was tame, as was my last post. You made your points, I responded to your points, just like I have done once again. If you have an issue with that, I can't help it. Those 5 guys and their music, their entire body of music, means something to me and I won't stand by and let someone run off at the mouth about them, their music, or any other issue they want to drag up if it's crap. Its ridiculous the way you jumped into those conclusions, if i liked one song i wouldnt bother to register to those forums... and no im not a hater... you have a wide imagination. i didnt bash anyone... i never said bad things about hinder and im repeating myself here. "let someone run off at mouth about them" no one did. your probably just angry about something else and you take it out on the forums
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Post by rocknroll on Jan 10, 2011 17:29:12 GMT -5
You're going to call gay because of his hand gestures? Last time I checked was married to a WOMAN named XX. Another fact is if you weren't trying to come on here and start something why would one of your post be dogging Joe ''Blower'' Garvey calling him fat? If it wasn't for ''Lips'' they wouldn't be who they are today? Are you serious? Hinder is around because they are an amazing band who writes songs we can all relate too. Just like said in a recent interview.. They're people
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Post by rocknroll on Jan 10, 2011 17:33:30 GMT -5
Too just like us and we connect to them because they write about real life experiences. Honestly, it sounds like your just another person hating on the band to me man.
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Post by RexRox on Jan 10, 2011 17:58:07 GMT -5
Tal, almost every post you've made has had something negative to say about the band. Just wait till I get to my comp and can copy and paste.
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